gigrig g2 vs boss es8

Thread starter calvin sattler; Start date Aug 20, 2016; C. calvin sattler Member. Add to basket. The place for all things related to guitar pedals. what are the limitations I'm likely to come across with the MIDI? Here it's just like a regular pedalboard, which makes me feel comfortable. It's pretty large and not light. GigRig’s G2 blasts past the basics—and does so in remarkably intuitive ways. They were good, but the versatility of the Boss (including MIDI implementation, any internal loop order you wish, build quality, display, LEDs) just puts it over the top. MikkiMcMurderer Frets: 273 . Our principle inspiration and overriding motivation. I manually adjusted the tempo for certain patches where I know the tempo for the delay. The Pedal Palette seems to overlook the biggest reason people get loop controllers in the first place. Ship from Store. When I finally decided to invest in a pedal switcher, I was debating between the Gigrig G2 and the Boss ES-8. In-Store Available through Gear Hunter: 1 from $899.99. For me I'd want a display on it so the Boss wins for me. Firstly the G2 is truly a pro-level piece of kit, that sounds like a snobbish thing to say - but there are implications to that. I got a MIDI thru 1-in-4-out box and it solved that problem for me. J’avoue que je suis passé à côté du nouveau système Boss ES8 qui a l’air aussi très prometteur ! However, the Boss ES-8 had some enticing features that the G2 didn't. 1 It's not cheap, if you're doing it you need to factor in the power supply too. So needless to say, I went with the ES-8. The ability to re-order pedals was one. It's not cheap, you need a decent case. My guitar goes into the SP compressor followed by the Crybaby. My plan is to get everything down solid on a temple board and cabled up with lava cables and then hopefully not moved again. Also, I was able to get a brand new ES-8 for $400, way less than the G2, which sells for about $1200 new (plus I believe there's a wait time). Boss GT-1000 VS Line 6 Helix VS Fractal AX8 SHOOT OUT - by Glenn DeLaune - Duration: 6:10. The GigRig G2 has been an industry leader for effects pedal switching systems since its launch in 2013. The ability to re-order pedals was one. AC-DC Adapter 9V DC UK plug. We include a tuner return jack to plug into the loop 1 return. You need to use a specific midi cable for that. Boss ES8 vs ES5 for big board with large loops. Remote switching only worked with certain amps/pedals etc. You never need to save anything—G2 always remembers your settings, even after powering down. Also, I have the ES-8 sending MIDI to the timeline and then through the timeline into the whammy. Obviously the G2 is more expensive, I am wondering if the price warrants the difference in features/usability? I realize that I could maybe set the timeline to a 16th note subdivision to get the exact speed but that is definitely not an elegant solution. I'm a huge fan of Dan from the Gigrig and pretty much agree with his "gear philosophy." Boss ES-8 Amp Control - Duration: 9:10. It was immense! RJM Mastermind PBC vs Gigrig G2 Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment ... with at least two stereo capable loops. This is exactly what I do with my Timeline and my GigRig G2. £609 ish? 6:10. Great for DI, reamping, wet/dry and plenty more besides. I want an ES switcher badly, my Joyo has huge tone suck issues when in full bypass and I need a bypass looper for live stuff this summer. ), If I am running the volume loop out to my amp input, and from FX Send to utilise my amp FX Loop, is this going to cause ground-lift issues with the G2 (Think Boss has a built-in ground lift? Which would you prefer for home use: a Gigrig G2 or a Boss ES-8? von HarmMoney, 07.03.20. I was so used to just stepping on the pedals. changing switches to toggle/ momentary etc. The GigRig High Current Adaptors are: ... (powering a Jackson Audio Golden Boy) and two “Supernova” supplies (Musicom EFX-LE & an old Boss CE-2). Find Out More. It's all down to cost/ features. I sold when I went the Helix route. However, I have a few patches that are just general sounds like "lead w/delay" that don't have a specific BPM. That makes me extremely happy. Pocket GT. Simple to use, great guitar tone! But I think most other similar pedal switchers also has the same issue. Input impedance, this really upset me! ES-5: Effects Switching System - Unlimited Possibilities in Limited Space. The Crybaby then goes into input 1 of the ES-8. If you want better Midi and lighter/cheaper (and maybe your power needs are already sorted). Next was the the volume loop. Using BOSS’ advanced technology the ES-8 is designed for spontaneity on the stage. This is why I'm looking at the Boss's. Well you don't need to but really... 2. Take the plunge into a whole new world of musical expression. ), I do love the stomp-box mode on the G2 though, it's definitely something I'd use, but not essential. A really fantastic feature of TheGigRig G2 is the StompBox feature. NEW. £10.00. But I want MIDI for my amp switching and preset changes so I wouldn’t consider the Joyo. We’ve recently put together a series of Quick Start videos for the ES-8 and ES-5 that walk through setting up basic functions for real-world use. Description; Here at CPB we use the RL2 quite a lot to expand loop switcher loop capability. What I did not realize is that this change is only PER PRESET and if I wanted to have a universal onboard tap tempo button, I'd have to manually reassign this button IN EVERY PATCH. Founder of TheGigRig. If there's a bad patch cable somewhere in my pedalboard, then my signal stops dead in its track and I'd have no time to try and troubleshoot to figure out which cable it is. Your Price: $ 999.99 CDN Write a Review. And it offers a ton of flexibility at a very reasonable price. 4. If I'm switching between patches in one song, I'd have to re-tap the delay on the timeline for each patch change to avoid from defaulting back to 120 BPM. It’s a total game changer that will take you to places no musician has ever gone before. The biggest drawback of the boss is it cannot do true stereo with ground and phase lift, a huge and crazy oversight. The GigRig. Boss ES8 vs ES5 for big board with large loops. I've been through many other units before, like Loop-Master switchers and the GigRig G2. NEW. SA750XDM_wx. As in, if I had a MIDI preset in "bank 1" and wanted to use the same MIDI preset in bank 2, it wont' work? Add to basket. I feel that there should be a way for the volume loop to be on by default for all presets. SA900w_ES8/G2/PBC. That's because each patch has a default tempo of 120 and sends out midi clock data. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons! Jump out of the box. Take the plunge into a whole new world of musical expression. Here I am again coming to Reddit for advice. When I finally decided to invest in a pedal switcher, I was debating between the Gigrig G2 and the Boss ES-8. The ES-8 has gone up by £100 since I bought it. Boss Es-8 or Gigrig G2? Daniel Steinhardt. I'd be using these for pedal switching as well as controlling the JVM options via MIDI. Anyone have experience with using/comparing both of these? Where to Buy Unlimited Possibilities in Limited Space. Any other pro's or con's that anyone can share that may not be glaringly obvious until using the units? The ES-8 is a powerful and versatile effects switching system that gives you complete control over a pedalboard full of stomps. So as I’m a MIDI noob i’m maybe a bit lost on some of the info here - sorry guys, thanks for taking the time to try and explain. BOSS ES8 Effects Switching System. You need to budge for very very slim patch cables as some won't fit side by side in the sockets . Categories: Loop Switchers, TheGigRig Tags: Boss ES-8, G2, GigRig, midi, Programmable Loop Switcher, thegigrig. marcel22 16.01.19. As you can see from the tables above, this is a VERY tight race between all the different pedal companies. I was using a Novo 24 pedaltrain. It is not that heavy now. Here I am again coming to Reddit for advice. Aller à la page: Précédente 1 2. Now, I am switching to a single mid-size Boss-ES8 based pedalboard. I've also got a Mooer Ocean Machine and DD500, which run in my FX Loop. £7.50. Everybody at TheGigRig is passionate about tone. I'm not using the effects loop. Add to Wish List Add to Wish List SKU: # 433490. I am very jealous. All of our pedalboard sizes have decks available to make them compatible with their … The Humdinger - split your signal, correct phase & kill hum. I've never used the Boss, although I did consider it. Lots of options in this pedal looper... odibrom, Dec 29, 2016 #2. oracles Australian in Canada. So if I had a MIDI capable switcher I'd be able to replace my JVM footswitch for channel switching, have better/faster access to the presets in the DD500 as well as being able to bring in boost, extra OD etc. Is that right? GigRig’s G2 blasts past the basics—and does so in remarkably intuitive ways. I moved it after the G2 and send MIDI-in to control presets, rather than putting the Timeline in a G2 loop and sending MIDI-out to control presets. Tipps & Tricks Fragen (FAQ) Regeln. The ES-8 and ES-5 Effects Switching Systems from BOSS solve all these issues and many others. It has so many different functions it's the insane. I've owned a G2. Cons: no order switching or parallel mixing, limited banks. Selling a GigRig G2 Extension kit. I was using my G2 with the usual Strymon (timeline, Flint, Mobius). Also, my band plays on a weekly basis so I need a reliable rig. the G2 is what i use on my board as its very easy to use and i dont need half the functions the ES8 has, but i need the extra loops and run 2 amps stereo. The G2 is more money but it does more and is better built. What do you mean by re-using the same midi preset? Support was both good and bad (you can talk to Dan on the phone if you're lucky and he's good - but outside of that there's a fanboi Facebook group which is heavily moderated - you can't even sell kit on there as it's 'insulting to Dan'). Boss RV-500 Reverb vs Eventide Space vs Strymon Big Sky. Its annoying though, I 100% agree. I realize there are ways to get around this, such as getting an external tap tempo switch or the 16th note subdivision I mentioned before but all these issues would be resolved if I could just simply turn off the MIDI clock or the master BPM per patch. The tempo on the strymon will still revert to what ever the tempo is on a given patch on the ES-8 but at least I can update it quickly with the tap tempo button. 14 and the "hidden" one. It’s a big investment. 1; 2; Next × Navigate. Messages: 2,078 Likes Received: 1,427. Then my signal come out of the ES-8 and into the Boss NS-2 noise suppressor. You need to budge for very very slim patch cables as some won't fit side by side in the sockets Then I go to save the patch on the ES-8 with the corresponding MIDI PC. @peteri - The midi really isn't great, I found it restrictive - for relatively simple things (like reusing the same midi preset), you need to budget for a midi mapper like the Osmosis gizmo. 3. However, the Boss ES-8 had some enticing features that the G2 didn't. Get the latest updates on new products and upcoming sales I used MIDI to switch H9 presets and found it really easy, although that was fairly simple usage. If the above sounds negative, I don't mean it to be - as I said at the beginning it solves one problem (how can I switch pedals/amps) very well - and if I was a touring musician who based his sound around a large pedalboard and had a roadie to carry the bloody thing, I'd be all over it. These switchers also tend to include comprehensive output options (eg multiple outputs with discreet routing capabilities), and the ability to control a lot of outboard devices like amps, and/or provide centralized control over expression/volume etc. I set the patch on the ES-8 to it's max 500 BPM but it wasn't exactly right for a slap back. I fired up G2 without cracking the manual, and within five minutes, I’d programmed half a dozen presets. The GigRig will not be held liable to any party for damages that result from the failure of this product. I suspect the answer is they're both with good and bad bits, if you want primarily switching of pedals and ease of use - that's likely G2 (at the expense of weight and cost). Felipe Andreoli is a Brazilian bass player and producer, known mainly for his work with the bands Angra, 4Action and Kiko Loureiro. Big G2 fan here... tbh, I really didn't notice any negative effect of the input impedence on my sound (mainly use a Tele myself). Needless to say, this was an extremely laborious task and I was baffled by the fact that this could not be done in global settings. So, go ahead. Great for DI, reamping, wet/dry and plenty more besides. Please reload. The G2 is on offer here as a bundle: https://shop.thegigrig.com/g2-holiday-bundle/. Specifically with a JVM which I know is a long shot question in itself. To start, you connect your pedals to the ES-8’s audio loops, and then activate the loops as needed to achieve various pedal combinations. Publié dans ; Auteur Message; d402 Custom Cool utilisateur Inscrit le: 10 Oct 15 Localisation: France: Répétition du dernier message de la page précédente : # Publié par d402 le 05 Oct 20, 01:45 pm. Description; G2 is, quite simply, the most advanced effects pedal board switching system in the world. I have been GASing for one of these or something like it (if there is anything) for a while now. SA900_ES8/G2/PBC. Nevertheless, I set up my tap tempo button and it works as expected. Whether you're mixing vintage and modern pedals, using MIDI, multiple amps and everything in between: your tonal integrity is everything. However, this is a global setting and consequently stops my tap tempo switch from updating the timeline on all patches. The GigRig is here to help you along your tonal travels! Built to spec. My Boss CE-2 pedal has never been happier, even though it’s always had the right amount of power and mA allowance, the old LED is shining brighter and there seems to have a little more life to the sound. Whether you're mixing vintage and modern pedals, using MIDI, multiple amps and everything in between: your tonal integrity is everything. Sep 4, 2017 #1 I know this is kind of ridiculous and probably not worth the $$$. I was a little apprehensive about switching over to using an effects switcher (no pun intended). I'm a bit concerned about trying to remember which presets are saved in which banks on the G2, whereas The Boss has the display panel to help with this. The Boss ES-8 is a great unit for controlling a board with several loops. How do I connect my tuner for silent tuning? This is my first time using an effects switcher and I just wanted to share some of my thoughts and opinions on the ES-8. Boss ES-8 vs G-Lab GSC-4 vs Gigrig G2 (Racks & MIDI) Antworten: 5 Aufrufe: 2.573 . Sound Quality. One year later, at the time when Boss presented the smaller ES-5 at the NAMM, Gigrig published a software update allowing their G2 loop switcher to also re-order the signal chain. I would have bought one for that price too. It’s a total game changer that will take you to places no musician has ever gone before. Jump out of the box. Sounds great (for the most part (see below)), 4. The ES-8 is a powerful unit and can get pretty complicated. November 2017 in FX. The Boss unit seems to have a few more options/menu's, G2 seems simpler? In other words, are the issues all related to having multiple tempos? Celebrate the birth of the cool at BOSS with the hot new ES-8 Effects Switching System. I'd need some sort of MIDI thru/splitter box to control all 3. Aug 20, 2016 #1 I searched and there doesnt seem to be a whole lot on here for this swiss army knife of a pedal switcher. The on/off st… But PT-3 classic fits better for my needs. When I finally decided to invest in a pedal switcher, I was debating between the Gigrig G2 and the Boss ES-8. The new and innovative ES-8 is a system that represents a major leap “out of the box” from the standard individual stomp box utility. It's amazing, but not for me as I don't need one stamp one patch. Daniel Steinhardt. SSP $1,399 . I set up patches to send program changes to the Strymon. However, I noticed that the timeline kept getting set to 120 BPM's. SA750wx_ES8/G2/PBC. From patch cables to switching systems, The GigRig focuses on all the bits and bobs that go in between your guitar, amps and pedals. Find Out More. SA900wx_ES8/G2/PBC. Better Midi capabilities than the G2 too but I delve too deep into that but it's there if you need it. Evidence Audio's Monorail Solid Core, Solder-Free Cable Kits. SA750w_ES8/G2/PBC. However, the Boss ES-8 had some enticing features that the G2 didn't. Using BOSS’ advanced technology the ES-8 is designed for spontaneity on the stage. The GigRig. Take the plunge into a whole new world of musical expression. If someone's board gets so crowded that they need a looper to simplify things, I highly doubt 4 inputs would ever be enough. smudge_lad Frets: 432 . Boss ES-8 Amp Control - Duration: 9:10. Description . Based on the same concept and features as the flagship ES-8, the ES-5 is pared down to offer more practical and essential use options for typical guitarists and bassists, and is drastically reduced in size to fit ready-made, standard-size boards. Customer Service. Cycling through the menus wasn't very elegant nor intuitive when trying do this but I figured it out with the help of some internet tutorials. for Blaine Harrison of "The Mystery Jets" it features a lower deck profiled for a GigRig G2 and chrome "quick release" legs. Gigrig G2 Spillover mit Klick-Sound. Here are all the loops... Loop 1 - Whammy 5 Loop 2 - JHS Sweet Tea Loop 3 - Keeley Katana Loop 4 - Archer Ikon Loop 5 - Boss PH-3 Phaser Loop 6 - Line 6 M9 Loop 7 - Strymon Timeline Loop 8 - Strymon Blue Sky Volume Loop - Morley Mini Volume Tuner out - TC Electronic Polytune Mini. Extra Distributor/ Isolator Cables. Using BOSS’ advanced technology the ES-8 is designed for spontaneity on the stage. They were good, but the versatility of the Boss (including MIDI implementation, any internal loop order you wish, build quality, display, LEDs) just puts it over the top. AFAIK Boss were the first to offer a pedal with fully flexible routing when they premiered the ES-8 in January 2015. SA750_ES8/G2/PBC. Thunderbolt 2 Dock (12 port) & Apple Time Capsule 2TB. Re the Boss ES8- DO NOT DO IT. I fired up G2 without cracking the manual, and within five minutes, I’d programmed half a dozen presets. 1. The reason I didn't choose the ES-8 was because I didn't like the menu system on the Boss, and also (from memory) you couldn't mix stompbox mode the same way - which I did like on the G2, and does work well. Anyone have experience with using/comparing both of these? MB bei Facebook . Fortunately I've never really had such a detrimental issue but having all pedals in their own loop would surely make me feel a lot safer. Glenn DeLaune 289,579 views. SA750XDM. Ideally after buying whichever unit, I'd like to try and keep any additional costs to a minimum - I'll obviously need a few more patch cables, MIDI cables and maybe a patch-bay for 4CM (I did read somewhere too that there's not much room between the jacks on the Boss, so I need low profile/thinner jacks?? I moved it after the G2 and send MIDI-in to control presets, rather than putting the Timeline in a G2 loop and sending MIDI-out to control presets. Specifically with a JVM which I know is a long shot question in itself. i find it very simple to use. Boss. Once it's all set up, if you were only syncing pre made settings with one midi pedal, would it have any issues for you? Another was the series/parallel routing. I used to have a G2 and loved it. I've been through many other units before, like Loop-Master switchers and the GigRig G2. (I realize that the G2 has a new software update that allows you to reorder loops, but apparently it's only one pedal per patch). Take the plunge into a whole new world of musical expression. You never need to save anything—G2 always remembers your settings, even after powering down. Looper/switchers are new technology for many players, but GigRig’s Daniel Steinhardt has been building them for a decade, and the experience shows. At a glance, the ES-8 looks like a compact multi-effects unit. Simple to use, great guitar tone! Once I saved it, the ES-8 set the delay to 120 BPM. Gigrig G2. Additional items are free shipping. I cycled through the menus trying to figure out if there was a way to simply turn off the master BPM for that patch. Sell it. It’s a big investment. It’s a total game changer that will take you to places no musician has ever gone before. This can be a positive and negative depending on how you look at it. So I figured I'd reassign the bank down button to be a tap tempo. Most of my MIDI pedals have a thru but a couple didn't. ** If you do use the almighty Boss ES-8 Pedalboard Looper along with a big amount of exquisite pedals, this might be the one! Departments > Guitars > Guitar Effects > Effect Switching System > BOSS > ES8 Effects Switching System. It's used on the pedalboards and racks of artists including Radiohead, Noel Gallagher, Guthrie Govan, Graham Coxon and Devin Townsend – so how did the company's founder Daniel Steinhardt manage to top it with the new G3?In quite a few ways it seems… Mit GigRig oä gleichzeitig Gitarren- und Vocal Effekte Switchen. Pick Up in Store. TheGigRig Remote Loopy2 £ 99.17 (£ 99.17 inc VAT) Available on back-order. Board-Mitarbeiter. I play primarily in a cover band that does private parties, weddings, bars and night club. Shit. This is currently on a pedaltrain 2 w/hardcase, which I would hope would be a good enough case to house the G2? This is exactly what I do with my Timeline and my GigRig G2. I fired up G2 without cracking the manual, and within five minutes, I’d programmed half a dozen presets. I ended up having to use a buffer in front because it presents a 2.2Mohm impedance, compared to most amps at 1M. I fired up G2 without cracking the manual, and within five minutes, I’d programmed half a dozen presets. Pedals I'd be controlling with either are: Strymon Timeline Eventide Space Earthquaker Transmisser, Afterneath, Rainbow Machine, … Damages excluded include, but are not limited to, the following: lost profits, lost savings, damage to other equipment, and incidental or consequential damages arising from the use, or inability to use this product. For most scenarios, I'm happy enough with my current switching capabilities but there's a few times in my usual set where having a "one-stomp" change would be greatly beneficial. I have never used MIDI at all, so I won't be looking for anything fancy - at most it would be amp channel change with delay preset or two, etc. I set up the delay on the strymon by entering in 100 ms for a standard slap back. Good question, the key differences are: No Stereo Loops or output on ES-5; One input on ES-5 (ES-8 has two switchable inputs) 200 presets on ES-5 (800 presets on ES-8) ES-5 has fewer CNTL/EXP inputs & sends. The Boss ES series, gigrig G2, and MusicomLab EFX series are some examples here. Sound Quality. ES-8 Effects Switching System featuring Felipe Andreoli of Angra. The GigRig is here to help you along your tonal travels! I'm a huge fan of Dan from the Gigrig and pretty much agree with his "gear philosophy." Finally the signal goes straight into the front of a very clean Vox AC30. I know the Boss units can be updated etc using PC>MIDI, but from what I gather the Gigrig folk charged for their recent upgrade. GT-1. He talks about the BOSS ES-8 Effects Switching System based on his professional expertise and experience. Weitere Seiten. CPB Patch Boxes £ 24.17 – £ 44.17 (£ 29.00 - £ 53.00 VAT) Model: Clear: CPB Patch Boxes quantity. Not in the same way that G2 is, however, Flip Flop mode enables a certain level of one-touch switching should you need it. Both now have switchable pedal/loop order, and I know both are probably a lot more flexible than I will actually need, but I've got myself thinking if I was going to go for an ES-8, am I then going to want to upgrade to the G2 a little down the line anyway, so why not just jump straight in.

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